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For the record, with penalties, Lampard’s percentage increases to 7.33% compared to Gerrard’s 6.02%. He’s been playing that deeper box to box role recently but it has not worked out, Lampard has been playing in that role too, and he’s been more effective, notching up two assists against Barca, and one in the FA cup final, while outclassing gerrard. During their final seasons in England, both players were included in the Sunday Times Rich List, with Gerrard's wealth in 2015 calculated at £42m, and Lampard's at £39m. Michy Batshuayi has scored 14 goals in 20 domestic cup appearances for Chelsea. As with the Messi vs Ronaldo comparison, I’ll be comparing their league form as there are no rankings applied to the Champions League. One quick observation,being versatile doesn't make you a better player,it actually suggests that u are unable to master a position,Milner can play 6 or 7 positions but he'll never be world class..Rooney has missed 5 of his last 6 penalties-proof that penalties are not half as easy as they look..And all this talk of Stevie-who I think is a splendid footballer-being able to do more for Chelsea than Lamps if he had moved is hogwash..You don't become the first player in any position to score 10 or more goals for 10 consecutive Premier League seasons by mistake.you just don't! One thing though, look up the ratio shooting chances/shot’s that are anywhere near dangerous. The closest Gerrard's Liverpool came to a league title was the season of his infamous 'slip' against Chelsea in 2013-14. “He has great passing ability, can tackle and scores goals, but most importantly he gives the players around him confidence and belief. That team would go on to boast 635 caps between them, with Gerrard's 114 England appearances matched by Spain's Xabi Alonso, while Norway's John Arne Riise (110) and Finland's Sami Hyypia (105) also reached their centuries. Found insideMartin Peters used to do it, so too David Platt and Frank Lampard. Nolan never played for England but he was competing with Steven Gerrard and Lampard and ... I feel Gerrard has been more skillful on the ball. Lampard has 22 European Goals in 89 games (including 4 with West Ham), Gerrard has 38 in 116. Gerrard is more important to his team, whereas Lampard does it more consistantly, albeit against slightly lower opposition. Errors leading to goal 3. Found insideAn absolutely essential book for every modern football fan, about the development of Premier League tactics, published to coincide with 25 years of the competition. zidane said gerrard is the best footballer in the world in 2009.. it just that lampard play with better team n teammate n gerrard is not.. remember during 2005 champion league, he uplift all of liverpool player spirit n will n lead them to glory.. ya david i agrree with u gerrard is better than lampard.. if gerrard got quality like chelsea he should have won the epl many times. He can count himself unlucky that his excellent chip against Germany in the last World Cup was incorrectly disallowed. For me, players of that quality should score the majority of their penalties with ease. Also, Lampard has an absolute dream team around him when he won the Prem, Gerrard inspired a comeback from 3-0 down against mighty AC Milan in the CL final. The statistical chance of this difference occurring is less than one in six or about 17%. Though he went on to be a Chelsea legend, Lampard's Premier League life began at West Ham, making his debut as a replacement for John Moncur in a 3-2 win over Coventry in January 1996. Over the course of two campaigns in the MLS, Gerrard made 36 appearances to Lampard's 31. As Chelsea won by two goals and had three different goal scorers, take one of Bosingwa’s, Lampard’s or Mata’s goals away and the result would still be 2-1 to Chelsea – meaning that there is no direct impact to the result and number of points. Both have scored against good opposition – Gerrard’s first goal was in the 5-1 win away at Germany in the 2002 World Cup qualifying game. They’re perfectly good goals and being a good penalty taker isn’t easy as it often involves huge pressure. Found insidePacked full of hilarious stories, exclusive anecdotes and refreshing appraisals, in The Greatest Games Jamie Carragher takes you into the heart of these matches, revealing new insights into the teams, players and coaches that have shaped ... Whilst Gerrard has only known life at a big club, Lampard began his football education at West Ham’s prolific youth academy. In … The fact gerrards stats come even close is a testament to the fact he is better. Analysis and opinion from our chief football writer. And last week, we dived into the playing days of Paul Scholes. Lampard’s goals are directly responsible for 4.33% per season of Chelsea’s points over the last 10 seasons. Also Gerrard has been at Liverpool forever, an admirable quality these days. What must also be taken into account is the teams that they play in. Lampard … In his most prolific season, 2009-10, Lampard scored 22 goals in 36 games as he claimed the third of three Premier League winner's medals with Chelsea. I think you would be suprised. As ever, this is the 'first reference book you should turn to'. The only place where Steven Gerrard is statistically stronger than Frank Lampard is for England. DELE ALLI appears destined for greatness – as his stats prove he is better at this age than any of Paul Scholes Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard or David Beckham. !And here's one more thing to ponder Lamps has played moRe penalties than StevieG,yet Stevie has missed more. With this in mind, what’s the average order of their goals? STATS: Scholes Compared To Gerrard, Lampard, Fabregas, Modric... over 3 years. Gerrard was only two years younger in 2001, neither were in their prime. Gerrard was part of the Liverpool side that came from 3-0 down at half-time to beat AC Milan on penalties in the 'Miracle of Istanbul'. He made his England debut in 1999. Also Gerrard didnt get played forward with torres because he cant tackle its because he had more influence attacking and assisting torres as well as having too many defensive midlefielders anyway including Mashcerano+Alonso. But the idea behind this series was to not only look at two comparable players based on stats, but also to help settle pub debates. ….I can’t believe this is even a question , GERRARD IS A LOT BETTER!! Whether you're a die-hard fan or a cosseted member of the prawn-sandwich brigade, Kissing the Badge will test your football knowledge and refresh your memory of the heroes and zeroes, the one-season wonders and the ever-presents. Even the most die hard Liverpool fan would have to admit that Chelsea have consistently had better players. In gerrard’s best season, he had Alonso and Mascherano behind him and Torres infront him. Hi Awal, unless they’d taken the same number of penalties, I don’t think it’s a fair comparison. Lampard has more goals, Gerrard has a better opponent per goal. The average opposition index leans in Lampard’s favour by 14 places, which would suggest he is the bigger game player for England. Here it goes…( I know that many of you will disagree! What this parameter doesn’t take into account is the order of the goal. Written with the DAILY TELEGRAPH's Sarah Edworthy, who contributes her own insights through original interviews with the key players at Madrid, EL MACCA is not just a highly entertaining memoir of four years at the biggest club in Europe. July 21, 2017 6:47PM edited July 2017. Found inside... stages Manager: Roy Hodgson Captain: Steven Gerrard (2 matches), Frank Lampard (1 match) Games played: 3 Goals scored: 2 Goals conceded: 4 Goalscorers: ... Note: Stats were correct up to January 13th 2012, Player Comparison: Steven Gerrard vs Frank Lampard, Player Comparison: Romario vs Ronaldo vs Rivaldo vs Ronaldinho vs Messi, The Premier League's Best Goalscoring Partnerships, Player Comparison: Thierry Henry vs Ruud van Nistelrooy, Player Comparison: Lionel Messi vs Cristiano Ronaldo 2009-2011. Everything stops for that moment. More importantly, as the article points out, lamps is always attacking, whereas gerrard has been on the right wing, left wing, deep lying defensive for a number of years. "There were many a night I can recall Stevie driving from midfield at Anfield and I tried to reverse that at Chelsea and be our driving force. So in a way, you’re right, you can’t argue with a non existent quote. Gerrard is more important to his team, whereas Lampard does it more consistantly, albeit against slightly lower opposition. The story of the most remarkable—and controversial—World Cup triumph in history, told in a long-awaited firsthand account from Diego Maradona, its most legendary player. “This is Diego Armando Maradona speaking, the man who scored two ... 2010/2011 – 90.2% of passes completed (1st) "Hindsight is a perfect science. From growing up in the north-east to winning the Champions League and five Premier League titles with Manchester United, via West Ham and Tottenham, Carrick's story reveals him to be his own man: fearless, thoughtful, intelligent and honest ... Kuper now leaves the numbers and data behind to explore the heart and soul of the world's most popular sport in the new, extraordinarily revealing Soccer Men. Soccer Men goes behind the scenes with soccer's greatest players and coaches. Players with the technique and ability of the two above should really be scoring 9 times out of ten from the penalty spot. Found insideThere will be some very bad music and some very bad decisions. I am Peter Crouch. This is How To Be A Footballer. Shall we? Can’t get enough of Crouch? Tune into That Peter Crouch Podcast on Radio 5 Live I’m not sure why you would take Lampard’s penalties away to judge who is better?? View stats of Midfielder Frank Lampard, including goals scored, assists and appearances, on the official website of the Premier League. gerrard is a tank and can defend and attack aspose to lamps only being able to attack. Gerrard is still doing it against better opposition as well – his Average Opposition Index is 12.29 compared to Lampard’s 12.80. Here, for the very first time, he tells the story of those United years. He can play central midfield (as a holding or attacking player), in the whole just behind the srikers, as a right winger and also as a makeshift right back or centre half. But when push comes to shove, who is the Premier League’s elite midfielder? Even neutrals are split on the Lampard vs Scholes vs Gerrard debate. Case closed. We fight against each other, we always have. Having first played in the same England team in 2002, Lampard and Gerrard featured 73 times together before both retired in the summer of 2014. But at face value the Anfield outfit built their European victory for £100m less, with the side that started in Turkey costing a combined £40.35m. It is no cliche that he single handedly dragged LFC to 4th~ for a number of seasons. Fernando Torres is one of the hottest properties in world football. I think to be fair to Lampard, he does cover a good bit of ground and early on was known for his stamina in being a box to box midfielder. Good comparison article. the pressure is very high. I have never seen a better all round, box to box, consistent player than Gerrard who ALWAYS rises to the big occasions!! In a game of Top trumps, Gerrard would only be ‘Gazumped’ by Lampard in his shooting ability. Indeed, he was voted England’s player of the year after his 3 goal haul in Euro 2004. I agree with you about the knock downs though, Gerrard used to get off a good few shots from Crouch’s knock downs – like his first goal in the 2006 FA Cup final. "I'm a huge fan of Frank. That’s pretty hard to beat. this tells you penalty taking isn’t easy. Maybe Liverpool’s poor outings has had an impact on Gerrard’s recent performances. Frankie and his team love playing football. There's always time for a game. And now that they have their magical football they're playing against teams they never imagined! Lampard was among the scorers from the spot after Didier Drogba's late goal levelled the game in 90 minutes. Found inside – Page 49Stats , as usual , get better when the evidence was lie through their teeth . ... Lampard and excellent captain figures such as Gerrard will have learned to ... These two marvelous midfield Maestros would waltz their way into any team in Europe, but are both inconsistent on the international scene. "It's what great players do and you see it with how Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi compete with each other. "I think Stevie, in his club career, maybe felt a little bit on his own at times. Frank Lampard. Also, I have no idea why penalities shouldn’t count all of a sudden. you’ve forgotten one vital thing. You are inspired by the biggest challenges. Gerrard has scored 3 goals in the two World Cup’s he’s played in whereas Lampard has received criticism (particularly in 2006) for failing to do so, despite many many shots. Found inside – Page 1993This is his inside story of life on the pitch for Manchester Utd; the League titles, FA Cups, League Cups and Champions League adventures. A must for any Utd fan. What's more, it's not really that close. Found insideWhy does Scotland suck? Why doesn't America dominate the sport internationally...and why do the Germans play with such an efficient but robotic style? These are questions every soccer aficionado has asked. Soccernomics answers them. With penalties removed, Lampard loses almost half of his goals against the top ranked opponents. Steven Gerrard: 66 games 22 goals 0.33 goals per game. With regards to penalties, we’ll have to agree to disagree. In terms of quality of player, you can’t (unless I had the Pele/Maradonna stats handy). We know that Gerrard is likely to be pushed further forward or even out wide if both players make the starting line up in the upcoming European Championships, but who deserves the attacking central midfield slot? I reckon Lampard has scored about 10 or 12 goals against Liverpool whereas Gerrard has only scored once against Chelsea, in a 4-1 defeat at Anfield. Tough decisions, eh? Lampard has more goals, Gerrard has a better opponent per goal. Frank Lampard is the best midfielder in the world. After all, the biggest talking point around the players is why can’t they play together? And he can be relied on to play more games each season. It’s now only 11 goals vs Gerrard’s 10 goals – and this is essentially in a season more of appearances – 42 extra. I’m a Liverpool fan but i’m trying not to be biased unlikg some *cough* bran22 *cough*. All of the comments date 30th January have been imported from the old blog. It’s a very common mistake alot of people make when they themselves haven’t viewed the proof. It appeared as though Lampard was being groomed to play the attacking role from the middle, whilst Scholes was pushed out left. Football finance expert Rob Wilson says if you took both players in their prime and sold them in last month's transfer window, Lampard would attract a marginally higher fee. We have seen the performances they were able to generate for their respective clubs, the consistency they were able to deliver and, particularly in the case of Lampard, the goals he scored as well. And so with that in mind, and from a Premier League starting point the contenders choose themselves. Also, when Stevie Me scores 22 goals and makes 17 assists from midfield in a league season alone, then maybe we can have a discussion. if gerrard playing for chelsea, he can do better than what lampard has done if lampard playing for liverpool, he can’t do better than what gerrard has done. Since 2001, Chelsea have won the title 3 times and finished 2nd a further 4 times. Fewer players have been at the heart of debates and comparisons, both for rival club fans, but also for England fans. But what of their contributions to the national team. So it most definitely means Lampard is a better scoring midfielder. £140.1m - and that's not including Fernando Torres (£50m) and Michael Essien (£24.4m), who were on the bench in Munich. Lampard was runner up as world best player before. Of their goals, 7 of Lampard’s have been in friendlies, compared to Gerrard’s 5. Senior Writer I August 21, 2008 ... His overall career stats are 151 goals in 566 appearances. Steven gerrard his better than frank lampad. Despite the suggestion the duo "couldn't play together",external-link during that time England won 63% of their games with both in the team, and 51% without. Gerrard is more important to his team, whereas Lampard does it more consistantly, albeit against slightly lower opposition. Successful 50/50s 191. In his playing career for the Chelsea, Frank Lampard won 18, drew eight and lost 13 of his games against Liverpool, scoring seven goals. You can’t leave out important stats for one player and not do the same for the other player. But wheres the facts on defencive work and up and down pitch work. Read about our approach to external linking. Both have scored decisive goals in FA Cup finals. Had it not been for some magic from Ronaldinho that year, we all know who would have won. He didn’t ‘drag’ liverpool. Having always been an attacking central midfielder, he perhaps had a head start on Gerrard in terms of goals scoring. Found insideIn this collection of frank and funny conversations between footballers and their biggest fans, these vital questions (and many more) are finally addressed. It’s long been the biggest debate in Football – who has been the greatest footballer of all time. While Lampard scored the winner against Everton in the 2009 final, Gerrard scored a dramatic last-minute equaliser against West Ham in 2006 to take the game into extra-time. It is one of the most common discussions in English football yet there is no clear and obvious answer. Shooting 8 10. Lampard also provided two killer passes that turned into goals against Barca recently, one of which came from robbing Messi of ball. "If Frank scored a goal, Stevie had to score a goal," he added. First thing’s first, for anyone that’s unaware of the background of these three players, let me provide you with a brief overview of their careers. Frank Lampard wins comfortably. if you think its that easy, then the reigning world best player wouldn’t have missed his penalty against chelsea. Looking strictly at the stats, it’s impossible to call this one, and despite hating sitting on the fence, this one will have to be left up to each reader’s interpretation. And when it's over there is a mutual respect there. In 2008-09, Gerrard scored 16 league goals (12 after penalties) in the season that they’ve come closest to winning the Premier League, finishing the season on 86 points. This would suggest each player’s goals were significant to the club’s final positions. It is a great testament to Lampard’s composure in being able to outsmart and beat the keeper from the spot…..lets not forget all the missed penalties by world greats….its not as easy as one would assume in big game environment to slot that ball into the back of the net, it appears easy to us the public who watch it but NEVER should we discount the value of the penalties he has scored…..Lampard hands down for me (clearly), Hi Zvonksy, there’s a number of reasons – mainly that the person taking the penalty is more than likely going to score – just because Chelsea have won more penalties than Liverpool in the above stats, doesn’t mean that Lampard is better goal scoring midfielder than Gerrard. during that time England won 63% of their games with both in the team, and 51% without. Fair enough, I don’t support either so don’t really have a preference either, but I do think penalties should be adjusted for – Lampard has scored a lot more and that is an unfair advantage when comparing goals. © 2006-2020. Lampard has more assists, but Gerrard is more important to his team. What makes the debate so heated is that each player represents one of the country's biggest institutions: Scholes and Manchester United, Gerrard and Liverpool, Frank Lampard and Chelsea. Frank Lampard OBE Lampard pada 2017 Informasi pribadi Nama lengkap Frank James Lampard Tanggal lahir 20 Juni 1978 (umur 43) Tempat lahir Romford, London , Inggris Tinggi 6 kaki 0 inci (1,84 m) Posisi bermain Midfielder Karier junior 1994–1995 West Ham United Karier senior* Tahun Tim Tampil (Gol) 1995–2001 West Ham United 148 (24) 1995–1996 → Swansea City (pinjaman) 9 … I can’t believe this is even a question, LAMPARD IS ALOT BETTER!!! Souness is another, as is Patrick Vieira. I hate to sit on the fence, and generally dislike to do so, but there’s nothing in it. Gerrard’s been pushed forward, Lampard back, Gerrard wide, and Lampard as part of a diamond. Hmm, who would you trust, a world renowned manager with the highest honours to prove his status,or the former west bromwich albion boss? Lampard made his debut a year before Gerrard's first England appearance, but it was the Liverpool man who established himself first, scoring his first international goal in the 5-1 win over Germany in 2001, and captaining his country at three major tournaments. Have mentioned my thoughts on penalties in the earlier comments, but the stats are open to each persons interpretation. Found inside – Page 90... G. Neville ( 32 ) Carrick ( 26 ) P. Neville ( 30 ) Gerrard ( 27 ) Lampard ... 3 Early ( Lasting ) : This section reveals all player ability stats , and ... Gerrard on Lampard: "When that whistle goes and for 90 minutes when we are competing against each other it is war. 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