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i want tell everyone who read this article and the comments that it is not appropriate to mix hinduism with yoga. However, later on Brahmans corrupted the Gita by introducing the Varna system in Gita. I agree with your statement that it is difficult to know exactly where yoga ends and Hinduism begins–but this does not equate to them being the same. He wrote more than 200 books, many of which were about mathematics and logic. Religion is divided, yoga is not. ? I am very grateful to your elucidation on yoga and Christians practicing stretching, breathing, relaxation exercise etc. I would love to use this brief history as a handout for my teacher trainees. Interesting to say the least. Thank you and the others on this blog for the helpful and insightful contributions to such an important activity, yoga. The website isn’t like any other site either. Thank you and many blessings to all. The part Lottery-funded £850,000 centre, which opened in 2012, welcomes around 10,000 a year thanks to the enthusiasm of volunteers like Myra Fye and Irene Rutter. According to Biography, Jim wrote himself a check for $10 million dollars in 1983, post-dated 10 years, hoping to be able to cash it by then. ", Myra added: "There is a lot of wordplay which children might well miss but he loved playing with words.". Hinduism includes a diversity of ideas on spirituality and traditions, but has no ecclesiastical order, no unquestionable religious authorities, no governing body, no prophet(s) nor any binding holy book; Hindus can choose to be polytheistic, pantheistic, monotheistic, monistic, agnostic, atheistic or humanist. Vedas,Upanishads,Bhagavad-Gîtâ these are all hindu religious text and all of them ask us to do yoga. He was born 189 years ago in 1832, To mark the occasion, we take a look at the Lewis Carroll Centre at All Saints Church to reflect on his legacy. They should know their own religion. separating yoga from hinduism is like cutting a limb from the body.Hindu poeple have been doing yoga for thousands of year.it is not a weight loss program for us.you people have been doing yoga for last 40 years and want to define yoga for us. My belief was always they were compiled somewhere between 4th – 2nd BCE. So a Christine cannot do yoga he/she can only do stretching and breathing exercise as philosophy given in bible is not compatible with yoga. Indeed, the 'coded' novel hinted at a lot of Carroll's other passions. Difference is GOD INSIDE you and wanting to CONNECT with it. In fact, if I am correct, One source of yoga comes from atheist philosophy (Samkyas). They are people, Timothy. Thanks! A friend of mine once very nicely told me that the West can learn Culture from India and the Indians can learn “Attitude” from the West. Sometimes they live nearby and will say they never realised or they’ve passed and always meant to call in.". so u cant separate hinduism n yoga. I just appreciate those who are far ahead in this journey of quest of life, at least than me and wish you may find the way to show it to others! If you go to Wikipedia pages related to Hinduism, yogas 90% of time they quote western indologist,western intellectuals who are not even hindus to define what Hinduism is for the world.They should quote Hindus at least 50% for fair understanding of Hinduism. Practiced by first religion of earth i.e “Sanatan Dharma”, which slowly changed to Hinduism. Thanks for doing this great research. Greek historians have written of how Alexander interacted with yogis while on his retreat along the Indus valley. So thanks to everyone who participated in the debate about the origin of yoga . It is a false replacement for the one true God who created all things. :) Just because you speak different languages, who owns the birth of sound? Thank you ->, Why isn’t Hinduism mentioned in any part of this article?? The term Hinduism is a colonial construct to include the many practices and beliefs of the Hindu people. But stating this fact : hindus found yoga, to be written in the article is not necessary and it was the people of india who found it . A decade ago, this scientist predicted 2020 would bring 'peak' chaos to the U.S. ... One is a short cycle that occurs about every 50 years, with peaks in 1870, 1920 and 1970. I have many Hindu friends from India who are all yoga teachers (we are from Sivananda) and we are all one. Much evidence exists of how this not only influenced, but more or less created what we call Yoga today. Doing this will lead us to the destination which is not to be aimed by a Yogi or a Yoga learner. As for me it’s about letting go…ego included…. MY KNOWLEGE, MY PRACTICE MIGHT BE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS BUT I RESPECT YOUR EFFORTS AND AM NOT IN A POSITION TO FULLY CONDENM YOU. Because language develop according to one’s lifestyle and needs and no one in the west was doing dhyan 1000 year ago or even 400 year ago. Ha ha, you are all fighting over silly things. ... welcomes around 10,000 a ⦠Religions are just man-philosophies that, at some point, became static ideas in a book, and were somehow imposed to everyone. Do you really want to have a honest and peaceful heart? I would love to use this article as a handout for an Introduction to Yoga Class that I’m offering. To understand that some one need to look into various studies which reveal the beef is not good for human body, cow’s urine has medicinal and heeling properties, in our villages after during first bath after delivery it is mandatory to add some drops of cow urine even a few drops are given to drink, cow dung is used to mop hows floor in villages because it is disinfectant. They need to understand that nothing in Hinduism/Sanatana Dharma promotes closed consciousness. What is important though, which I believe you do well Timothy, is stick with the factual history and research, which I don’t think many others have. I got more then what I asked for and that’s actually batter. The two are not compatible. And rather than reading people who have picked some knowledge from secondary research, read about people like Maharishi Patanjali who compiled Yoga sutras and dedicated his entire life for good of mankind. So to quote from your own writing in the “Five Niyams of Yoga”…….. Ishvara Pranidhana (devotion) is the dedication, devotion, and surrender of the fruits of one’s practice to a higher power. Namaste Timothy Burgin, I read all the connection of replies and topic of the conversation. Sophia – Name calling and/or putting people down is not tolerated on this website. I think I finally understand your confusion of thinking yoga is a Hindu religious practice. Now comming back to ‘Yoga’, I will refer to names of certain poses:-‘ Surya Namaskar’- who worships Sun?, ‘Bhu Namskarm’- who worships Earth? And if you continue to lace your posts with judgements and a patronizing tone then I’ll delete them as inappropriate. It’s like, all humans are animals but, not all animals are human. My question is, are the execution of the poses perse an act of adoration or worship? Let’s call yoga what it is, a beehive. Too much stuff for me to go through line-by-line but you can read the above book and see for yourself, I think it’s important that we stop spreading these inaccuracies forward. Thank you Timothy for sharing such practical information about Yoga in general. The bottom line of any deep study of Yoga history is that Yoga clearly belongs to no specific culture as it has been adopted and adapted by so many different cultures and traditions over the centuries. I can – not eat beef and love a cow and not be Hindu. People in west also want peace of mind but cannot get it in their abrahamic or atheistic beliefs.So they turn toward dharmic religion and find peace in it.But it goes against your abrahamic or atheistic beliefs to find peace in other religion hence west created this term “spirituality”.In the name of spirituality you can appropriate dharmic religion the way you want like west has created Christine yoga,holy yoga.west is trying to digest yoga into christinity. i live in Rishikesh …Himalayas ….a lil Yogi with my own divine experiences with Jesus , Shiva….i live a blessed life…you gonna be perfect in physical and if you want to go for something more than physical life….. You need to spend time as it should be…. still Timothy you have to deal with the fact that biggest credits goes to Hindus for Yoga. Woolly Mammoths (Mammuthus primigenius) retreated to eastern Siberia by the end of the Ice age, about 10,000 years ago, then died out. Henri Cartier-Bresson (1908-2004) had another metric: "Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst." Hence I hope I have made my point here and have presented a few of evidences. However, if your intention is to actually become a Yogi, please focus on the first 4 sutras of Patanjali and meditate upon them. From my decades of study, research and practice of yoga I have not seen, heard or read anything that says one must practice Hinduism to be a yogi. 1 Hinduism is not only a religion ..it also a way of life. I think not, yet all religions use it and even those who do not believe in anything religious, spiritual, or Godlike use sound. 686, 98 L.Ed. what yo people in west do now days is not yoga but hatha yoga. Hinduism is a term invented by the British to describe the various religious practices of Indians at the time of colonization. Whilst you vehemently deny any connection between Hinduism , religion and Yoga, it seems odd that you propound this in your writing elsewhere. Hi Bill, thanks for pointing out that interesting news story. Myra was given the book by her aunt when she was eight. As a student of yoga, I am constantly learning new things as well as refining my previous knowledge. its his/her choice. before that also vedas exists.definatly yoga is of outshoot of hinduism. “Preclassical” period. I enjoy yoga very much and I feel I have benefited from it in 2 ways: 1. in a physical sense the practice of it has improved my flexibility, and 2. it appears that I am settling down and becoming more open minded about things and somehow I thiink this is partly because my teachers always display and teach the positive. Those ads you do see are predominantly from local businesses promoting local services. That’s all they want you to acknowledge, and I think when you have people of a certain culture, whose sacred traditions have been appropriated for superficial financial wealth, telling you they are upset, as an outsider of that culture, I would hope you could empathize with their frustration, even acknowledge that Hinduism could have been mentioned in the article, rather than painting them all as extreme nationalists with a political agenda. I would think they were quite arrogant to think they knew better. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. As a white American female, I have to side with the Hindus on what yoga is. When Jesus arrived at Bethlehem, he did not arrive to preach Christianity, rather he arrived to teach universal knowledge, which is acceptable to everyone. Timothy, you’ve done well in your patient and consistent responses here. I would love to use your very concise yoga history excerpt as a handout for a class I’m giving ( credited of course). But certainly they come from the same Source. Maybe they should try something else like, get a job? ;;;Yogis-whom you called Mystic Sages…use to perform 8.4 million postures in their yogi life to get human life again…You know Yog connects to unseen spiritual world which you can’t with your these physical eyes…. Nor can it be traced to the classical Indian languages, such as Sanskrit or Tamil. Hatha yoga was given to us by lord shiva.please read the story of sage matsyendranath Matsyendrasana is dedicated to it. all are not the same of Astanga yoga. Read shiva samhita which is the most important on hatha yoga. But ask the average person and they might not know that the author grew up in Daresbury and spent a lot of his time daydreaming at Walton Hall when it belonged to the Greenall brewery family. Is sound a religion, because it seems most people make it, use it, believe in it, even if they are deaf or mute, sound can be made with the body. This would be approximately around the time the Vedic culture is believed to have begun, ca 6’000 years ago. Thanks for your thoughtful comments. So, I hope you don’t mind clarifying a few things but if I’m going to accept someone’s teachings, I really need to know they are the real thing. Thank you for reminding me why I am destroying the world and everything around it. Odd and disappointing. next time please keep the particular date of the article. As I said, I am not religious but much of my way of acting in society (culturally speaking) is “Catholic” since the country where I was born follows in a majority that religion. I can – practice yoga and not be Hindu. Timothy. it seems to me that you are that teacher who really have practice yoga only to practice Asan, you have to go further in that inner quest , in order to go further you will have to trace back the history. I arrived at this site, hoping to begin my understanding of Yoga Practices…..I had no other preconceived ideas on the subject. Lewis Carroll's Alice's Adventures in Wonderland has been passed down from parent to child from one generation to the next since 1865 with young readers eager to go down the rabbit hole even to this day. May I have your permission to include this article (giving proper citation and credit, of course) in my teacher training manual? People mistakenly think that the Yoga Sutras are the definitive text on Yoga and they are not. The history of cannabis use goes back as far as 12,000 years, ... dump sites of prehistoric hunters and gatherers," Warf wrote in his study. If you have a complaint about the editorial content which relates to inaccuracy or intrusion, then please contact the editor here. The origin of YOG, is 4 pre-Vedic literature practice. . Eventually there will congeal a great body of work upon what practices are most effective and pleasurable for enlightenment or the best change in quality of self without any dogma attached to them. Islam has always been powerful. You want to enjoy all the good part of different religion but avoid certain restrictive and controversial part of a religion. Meet Malumaâs Jamaican Co-Star: Davina ⦠So, I’d be grateful if you could enlighten me, is this an example of “ dissolving our ego centric nature” ? They share similar aspects and philosophies, but were developed as separate practices. The exact date is unknown but it all depends upon what it is. Get involved with the news in your community, This website and associated newspapers adhere to the Independent Press Standards Organisation's Editors' Code of Practice. à¥à¤•à¥à¤²à¤¾à¤¦à¤ªà¤¿à¥¥. It is not also against polygamy as well. That is the ineluctable fact here. The current version dates back to Nov 26, 2007, but the original version of this article would have been published sometime in 2000 or 2001. The land was referred to as Hind, later India. "We have people visiting here from Japan and Russia and all over the place. Hello, to everyone… I have read all of the above comments…whilst the majority of you debating yoga and its roots… You are missing the point of it clearly… Is it SO important to be Right? A Quote From varun MARCH 13, 2016 AT 2:03 PM “Spirituality is plagiarized version of religion”. Please know that there are a few nationalistic Hindus who are actively trying to claim that you must be a Hindu in order to practice yoga. “Hindus are also plagued by Fake yogis,baba and fake Goodman who uses Hinduism for name, fame and power. I love yoga. Thus, early venturers into the Western Hemisphere, had limited times in which they could travel by land, but coastal water travel was open to them more generally. He does not want someone to be like a harlot chasing other gods. The texts, rituals, and mantras you site in the history of yoga are the same texts, rituals, and mantras that embody Hinduism. "But saying that there are so many hidden meanings in Lewis Carroll’s writing that are very often lost on children. I would also love permission to use this brief history as a handout for my teacher trainees. He even gave us free will. Tjank you for this blog. Crichton passed away almost ten years ago, but he was an American author, screenwriter, film director, and producer that did very well in the genres of science fiction and thrillers. Om Namah Shivaya….Satyam Shivam Sundaram…mean:::::Shiva is the truth:::shiva is the supreme:::shiva is the most beautiful …. Have peace and get on with your own practice without pushing opinions on others. so since you are so stuck on trying to teach of YOG , where you are not qualified as a teacher based on limited knowledge of yours, which is based on your ancient study on Sanskrit ,translated into english, where most expression and meaning cannot be explained, so explaining a bling person how to admire beautiful sunset , i hope you get what i am trying to say here , Namaste :-). Their thorough and modern academic research has shown a lot of what you’ve written here (which is the same as I had been teaching trainees for years) to be incorrect, so you’ll probably want to re-write it for accuracy’s sake. She said: "I did love my copy of the story. Your email address will not be published. There are very few institutes which represents Hinduism to the world. The permanent exhibits at the centre – including some at knee height for young visitors – reveal Carroll's connections to Daresbury and Warrington as well as his later life and writing Alice in Wonderland, aged 30. The term Hindu originated as the designation of the people living along the banks of the river Sindhu referred to as Indus by the Greeks. Glad every one here is fighting, arguing and claiming Yoga. Hindus are very disorganized. Love this. All the Best, Scott. If I may, I’d like to know your perspective on doing the ‘yoga poses’ perse. why they had to show themselves on top of caste cycle. But back to the roots: The Upanishads mention yoga, the Rig Veda are some of the earliest speculations of proto-Yoga. I am having difficulty finding this information. Do all Hindus practice yoga? Ugandan-born trans woman wins Canadian award. I’m glad to hear you are benefiting from the site. Later when Hinduism was codified, Yoga was indeed incorporated as one of the six pillars of Hinduism (the other five pillars are Samkhya, Vaisesikha, Nyaya, Mimamsa and Vedanta). One can not wake up a person pretending to be asleep. People say that history is written by the winner.hindus were colonized by Muslims for 400 yrs and by Christians for 200ys.They wrote indian history using their colonist mindset.They tried to create a identity for hindus so that Hindus become subservient to them. One example is how the Kabbalistic Tree of Life correlates with the cakras for instance, which is based upon number. Krishna spoke against the Brahminical rituals. I totally reject this chest thumping of a section of “Hindus” who have forgotten a core principle of Hinduism, namely Humility. Thank you for the information here. the comments on this article really show your good debating skills. In fact, a land bridge existed connecting Siberia and Alaska until about 10,000 years ago, but this route was largely blocked by glacial ice between about 30,000 and 12,000 years ago. Finally, if you wish to become a fine violin player, you’d probably want to ensure you learn from someone who can play , and very well. it bad. 2. The numbers progressively swelled after the ⦠Or, if there isn’t the concept of believing in a god inside, the mere realisation of the forms has no inherent meaning on hinduism? Even if I used to believe in God as a child, that idea disappeared as soon as I started to learn about the world, in a philosophical way. The Bhagavad Gita can be interpreted as Vaishnavic or Advaitic and both of those are–you guessed it–religious philosophies. Thank you for your website, I’ve enjoyed reading it. Please send us a formal request via our contact us page for permission for use. 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