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It'll typically combine a mixture of soft skills such as project management, talking to clients, and gathering/articulating requirements, and will also emphasize learning best practices in the industry such as architecting and testing software, effective build and deployment, etc. I was not expecting a karma flow but I wasn't expecting a hit, either. Your post should not "feel spammy". The software architects will tell you what type of software engineering or design principles will be used in their particular shop or environment for that particular project. All these lines seem pretty fuzzy. I don't have much knowledge on software programming titles, so I guess the GUI programming? Focuses a bit more on theory and the core concepts behind making a computer do something. They're all retired if that's what they wanted. As a former embedded engineer who is now a network engineer, embedded software positions are a lot harder to find than more generic software jobs, and it can be kind of tricky to move from one to the other. Everything is also technically documented including the cost and benefit of implementing such systems beforehand. Exactly, I did IT (they renamed the course to CS & IT ) and this is what I studied. Basically, I'm a software guy, through and through, so it was very frustrating to me to have to learn about electricity and low-level hardware when I really wanted to be learning more programming languages and software engineering practices. My school also does not have software engineering. Trying to circumvent the terms of services of a website also counts as unethical behavior. Apparently hardware engineers. They all make a lot more than I do and constantly get harassed by recruiters who want to pay them a lot of money. I was really wary at first as I did not want a watered down "IT degree". You learn how to program, but you focus on topics like working on projects in teams. Hey look, it's that guy who comes into a thread with nothing to contribute, rattles off a catchphrase that he likely doesn't understand and expects the karma train to flow. Well, shit, the question was already answered and no one had mentioned the catch phrase. Java has almost no place in electrical engineering. Where I went to school CS majors did not take any calculus or physics with calculus classes so if they applied to a position at the government base near the University they would be turned down cause a requirement to work there is having a degree with calculus. After all, most good CS programs have a reputation to uphold, so they have a strong interest in making sure their graduates are reasonably prepared for both academia and industry. Every time I talk to him I kick myself in the ass for not going this route. [–]watersign 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). If you'd like to avoid as much Math as I do (but pretty much we'd come across them while programming anyway), you could choose this path. I know that quality assurance directors make a hefty amount of money abroad. At some companies, you will find quite a bit of overlap and/or "misclassification". Senior C++ Software Engineer Radar Systems. The main goals are to create scalable and highly reliable software systems. Read our FAQ and search old posts before asking your question. Probably the most accessible, it comes in different flavors like C, Python, and more. Software Engineering is a bit different from CE and CS, but I feel like it is the most practical in the real world if you want to be a developer. Warning: I'm biased towards computer science, so my response may not be 100% even-handed. As an added bonus, most of what they teach you in a typical CS program is "universal", in a certain sense. Having bashed embedded programming enough, I will say its still pretty fun (for some value of fun)! You should choose Software Engineering if you are more interested in the hands-on approach, and if you want to learn the overall life cycle of how software ⦠I feel like CS majors lean more towards SE over time, because they will have more experience and know what is the best approach to certain designs. There is a major division. [–]lithedreamer 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Do not delete your post! Is there a difference between a software engineer vs software developer? policies on acceptable speech and conduct, ELI5: Computer Science vs Software Engineering vs Computer Engineering, The output you expected, and what you got instead. People use terms such as software engineer, software ⦠Most of the usual good-programming abstractions still work, though; avail yourself of them. (maybe Scientific Computation or Algorithms & Complexity Theory), [–]PZ-01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). [–]403Flip 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (3 children). Basically, with most schools you choose an emphasis within your CS degree. Computer Science is the study of computation, it does not require a computer. I went to school for CE I work with people that went for applied math and CS we all have the work title of Software Engineers. A lot of companies (older ones) still do not differentiate or even know about computer engineers. Udemy coupon links are ok: the discount adds "additional value". Make sure you check out your universities Engineering or Computer Information Sciences department, and actually look at each flowchart for each major or plan of study. We also did not have a school of engineering though. Computer Science, on the other hand, took just enough team building and project management courses to be a competent team member, and taught you anything you could ever want to know about computer programming, from theory to application. [–]crow1170 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Here is my very subjective opinion on the ⦠You may find that if you stop at a breakpoint and debug, when you continue you'll stop with an error check because you've messed with its timing requirements. You may have to debug weird timing issues in i2c busses. My mentor is a rendering expert who only has a high school diploma and he's been in the video game industry for 20 years now. Even though I am going down the embedded systems route, I also quite enjoy programming GUIs and mobile applications with java, so I am also considering looking for a software programming career as well. So if I'd have to chose, I'd much rather try and learn software engineering by myself then computer science. I set up SCons to do command-line build/install/deployment and I use my usual editor, Source Insight, and I'm happy with that setup. A good systems engineer can go one step further than just analyzing and look for solutions to the problems and questions they analyze. ▶ Fundamentals of Electrical & Electronic Engineering, ▶ Software Engineering and Project Management, ▶ Distributed Systems & Co-operative Computing, [–]testarossa5000 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children), [–]cyberbemon 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child), National University of Ireland Galway (NUIG), [–]testarossa5000 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). If youâre ⦠The IT with software development guy should learn some management too so he has something extra to offer and can get promoted on that track eventually. [–]Plazmatic 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). I think I've got a few hundred in my TAoCP set and I got that before the last volume came out what, 10 years ago? This represents one part of the embedded world. Employers will look at a IT with software development degree and think, ok this guy can plug libraries together and work in a team and build our business app according to spec. I should probably research some more, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the cscareerquestions community. But he will look at the computer science guy as someone who can do all that, plus come up with his own algorithms for problem solving, he will know how things work behind the scenes and will be able to spot potential performance issues, and he will probably be able to write more efficient code. However, to IT professionals, there is a distinct difference between role responsibilities. However, the silicon chipset paradigm is pretty much at it's exponential peak. As for general differences between the two positions: Software engineers tend to focus more on implementing software, while systems engineers work with users and domains. [–]PZ-01 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children). We also don't have a software engineering degree -- the expectation is that students learn about software engineering through their normal coursework + through internships. For example, in my university, the requirements and coursework for graduating with a computer science and computer engineering degree are almost identical, and so many people end up dual majoring in them. Personally, I think the math and theory aspects of a CS degree is the most fascinating part, since it empowers you to know how to tackle and solve increasingly fascinating and complex problems. Again, driven by his passion. The boundary between the three of these things is always going to be a little hazy, so the exact difference and distinction isn't necessarily clear-cut. The point is, the degree doesn't really mean much beyond proving you can learn. It may be a somewhat inelegant metaphor, but I've found it works: Software engineering is like architecture. I also personally think that learning about software engineering is something which you can easily learn in your spare time and during internships/jobs, whereas learning about math and theory is harder, especially without a competent teacher guiding you along the way. I'm in CS (first year) and was told out of all three we make the least (I really don't care how much I make as long as I enjoy it) so was just wondering if that's how the "pay/rating hierarchy" was. If your question is similar to an existing FAQ question, you MUST cite which part of the FAQ you looked at and what exactly you want clarification on. Unit testing, or testing in general is rare/more difficult cause you often need an oscope. Software Engineering: Want to learn how to program using software and concepts that is probably 4+ years out of date? The emphasis tends to be on understanding data structures, algorithms, programming languages, etc. [–]testarossa5000 -2 points-1 points0 points 6 years ago (0 children), [+]crow1170 comment score below threshold-9 points-8 points-7 points 6 years ago (2 children). A: A software engineer designs and creates engineering specifications for software programs based on a broad knowledge of information systems. If you like mathematics and are not interested in computers, CS is for you. When working on a problem, try solving it on your own first and ask for help on specific parts you're stuck with. Software Engineering makes the requirements clear so that the development will be easier to proceed. They work with a lot of lower level languages that are close with parts of hardware, after all, their focus is how the hardware is programmed. If the software building aspect of being a system engineer sounds appealing, you may be interested in becoming a computer programmer. Some time in CS made me realize it can get very theoretical and the math is VERY present. Do not use URL shorteners, referral links or click-trackers. It's a balance of both worlds, to be honest. They're also not mutually exclusive -- you'll find that all three fields will have a fair amount of overlap, especially for any foundational material, and that having a firm grasp on all three disciplines will be very useful, no matter what you're doing. Edit-compile-run-debug cycle is loooooong and painful. Visit PayScale to research systems engineer salaries by city, experience, skill, employer and more. You will make as much as your skills and drive to continue learning allows you. On that note, make sure you look up the professors if you have a choice. [–]louky 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Hell AST just retired and he literally wrote the book on OSes and a few on networking. Again, generally speaking, the titles are used interchangeably. We didn't have an "IT," but it sounds like your doing a mix of the two, with more emphasis on programming, which is good. optimization and code size). Of course, this perception isn't necessarily true -- I can easily imagine a software engineering degree potentially being as rigorous, if not more so, then a typical computer science degree. For example, linking to some tweet or some half-hearted blog post which links to the page is not ok; but linking to a tweet with interesting replies or to a blog post that does some extra analysis is. Most people that setup networks, image desktops, etc. After our group graduated they renamed the course to IT & CS, also changed some of the subjects. There are many opportunities in both fields. Computer Engineering involves significant amounts of programming, but tends to be lower level (drivers, embedded programming, compilers, operating systems, etc) while Software Engineering usually involves software ⦠Both are really wonderful fields of study. According to Ben Treynor, founder of Google's Site Reliability Team, SRE is "what happens when a software engineer ⦠He is now the lead of our audio department. I compared it with the coursework in CS programs at other universities and it's pretty much the same depending on your elective choices. We have logic probes for that" is not unusual to hear. Why? After your degree, who knows? I'm surprised that they combine arts and sciences. A typical computer science program will end up teaching you a bunch of theoretical and general knowledge about "computation" in general, which qualifies you to tackle and approach genuinely difficult problems. When in doubt, message the mods and ask them to review your post. [–]CosineTau 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–]SanityNotFound 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). I deal with solving difficult problems related to designing high scale and high availability architectures, ensuring data consistency, security, performance optimization, choosing and implementing solid data structures and algorithms, etc. Software and electrical engineering professionals develop the technology used in offices, cars, and even hospitals. It is from a regionally accredited public university. [–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (2 children). I have to confess, this is a complex issue. The more math you know the easier school will be, and the less you'll have to worry about it later. When the time comes for upper division courses is when the skills start to branch away from each other and changes how you will apply this basic knowledge. Asking for code reviews is ok as long as you follow the relevant policies. You will get a higher paid salary and probably more interesting job because of those skills. ELI5: Computer Science vs Software Engineering vs Computer Engineering (self.learnprogramming), [–]michael0x2a 187 points188 points189 points 6 years ago* (41 children). Computer Engineering might be the most varied of the three, and overlaps significantly with Software Engineering. This is pretty much right. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Developer Image via Shutterstock. This means you will have to know a lot of knowledge such as the best approach to a problem (what architecture to use, what is effective), meeting requirements, releasing software. So is there any ranking to this system? Yes, I work on teams and am a helpful coworker, but that's a part of working for a business, not being a software engineer. The software engineer makes the software to program the robot. [–]angellus 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). The two other ones will eventually lead to technical lead positions, which isn't bad and pays well, but engineers usually have a cap on the hierarchy that gets beaten by pure management positions. I guess having (pretty decent) C++03 support and a debugger that usually works puts me ahead of (some of) your experiences. are fields of study that might fall under "computer engineering". Had a friend go this route, he worked for TI for a long time and was paid well. You must be smart. I asked this over on /r/networking a few days ago, it might be of some help. I hope I cleared some misunderstanding and enlightened someone to feel excited about Software Engineering. A fellow students' cousin from Ireland came to visit us in the US at my high school and he said getting into college is reserved only for the intelligent. Data scientists, on the other hand, work on data collected to build predictive models and develop machine learning capabilities to analyze the data captured by the software. All the programmers at my work are considered Software Engineers and we have people with degress in CE, EE, CS, and applied mathematics. I'd like to learn more Software Engineer skills, as I think I will have more career opportunities with them. There may be need for more computer engineers once the carbon and quantum computers become common place. Abusive, racist, or derogatory comments are absolutely not tolerated. I know my question is quite broad, but any insight on the job descriptions would be well appreciated. Distinguishing between tasteless and tasteful self-promotion is inherently subjective. However, that's the perception, for better or worse. [–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). What to learn to start creative frontend development in 2021. I never intend to become a manager. I wanted to get into programming and wanted to learn about the computer in general. CE: Don't really build computers and we do get math. Otherwise, take an engineering major. Self promotion from first time posters without prior participation in the subreddit is explicitly forbidden. Software engineers are well-paid, and are often considered to be in possession of one of the most desirable jobs on the market â that doesnât mean itâs for everyone! Essentially, if you can get a job with one of them, you can get the same job with the other two because there is tons of overlap. [–]americanextreme 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). It basically, instead of the business classes of "IT value proposition," it just has more related classes. I knew I should've done computer engineering instead of CS... [–]pumpkinhead002 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). haven't picked up a copy yet myself, [–]mrussell48 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). Maybe not as low as wires and transistors, but knowing how processors work and how computers are structured was fascinating and allows me to think about what is happening in the computer when my code is running. There is also a core sequence of enterprise related stuff. ELI5: What is Computer Information Systems vs MIS vs Information technology then? There are a lot of confusion around the names for our trade. Computer Engineering involves significant amounts of programming, but tends to be lower level (drivers, embedded programming, compilers, operating systems, etc) while Software Engineering usually involves software users interact with. Software engineers might also determine what development methodology to use after documenting software requirements. Well he said "embedded systems" which isnt all software. As much knowledge from what I've learned, we throw in a lot of data-gathering, brain-storming, and creating of diagrams (DFD, UCD, ERD, Ishikawa, etc.) When posting some resource or tutorial you've made, you must follow our self-promotion policies. He was really sad but had lots of $100 bills to wipe his tears with. [–]Incursus 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). Embedded engineers have really crappy tools in my experience. [–]thewebsiteisdown 28 points29 points30 points 6 years ago (4 children). They really aren't cost effective these days. If you are asking about job satisfaction/hours/salary, there is more variation among companies within a specialty than there is across specialties. [–]testarossa5000 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children). It varies from school to school. Actually a little bit of all three, and it all depends on what your goals are. It's housed in the school/department of engineering at my university. Computer Engineering is maybe more like physics. are the technicians. You may find that you have to care about the lower half of an interrupt. Software Developer = Programmer = Coder, all of which center on programming, but can widen out to encompass the other aspects of software engineering. A subreddit for those with questions about working in the tech industry or in a computer-science-related job. While this is great to know, if I wanted a business degree, I would have double majored. Today I reversed a Linked List without looking anything up. I generally consider embedded development a subset of electrical engineering. to better understand everything before we dive in into the actual programming and development itself. So what would be the most suited role for someone looking to get into Digital Forensics or Security or something like that? While I agree that we're inclined on the "softer" side of programming in comparison with Computer Science practitioners, I would have to object with your statement that it's "something which you can easily learn in your spare time". Computer Engineering: Do you want a degree in mathematics, electronics, and learn how to build a cpu and other components along with machine level software development? "Debugging, what's that? Our IT with software guys just run network lines, maintain the network, upgrade the switches and software and if we have a request for a piece of software that is open source they know just enough to scan the code and determine if there will be any security threats to the network. [–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 6 years ago (3 children). If you like the idea of 4 years of face melting instruction in the most fringe concepts of information storage, manipulation, and have an above average tolerance for abstract mathematical concepts then CS is for you. I know a lot of people who went this route. If you got an error, include the. I'm working on an ARM chip (nRF51822) using Keil build tools (because they're still free since we're well under the 32k limit for having to pay for now), but not their IDE (except to debug), or Eclipse (which there is I think some documentation how to set up). [–]mrussell48 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children). You're discovering new ways to make better "beams" (data structures, algorithms, etc). Should I be at an advantage or disadvantage when applying for developer positions, having a Computer Science degree instead? And yeah I agree, a PhD in this age isn't cost effective, I would just be going for my degree first. On the other hand, other schools/other people place a huge distinction between the three (though I don't know enough about this to go into too much detail). It happens. Get an ad-free experience with special benefits, and directly support Reddit. Do not suggest or help somebody do something illegal or unethical. Are you going straight to work, working while hitting an MS, or going straight crazy and going for a PhD? [–]s1nequan0n 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children), Fuck BaconReader made that a wall of text. Do you mean embedded versus Web programming or versus GUI programming? Follow reddiquette: behave professionally and civilly at all times. Cloud engineers create a place to save and even share information and documents over the Internet. I wish you the best in whatever path you choose. No one is going to read that >_<, [–]Juniorlol 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (1 child). and join one of thousands of communities. [–]403Flip 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child). [–]Plazmatic 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children). This was actually on purpose. [–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (15 children), [–]403Flip 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (14 children). If you like it, buy it later when you can afford it. Embedded Systems vs Software Engineering I am currently a senior at a university studying Electrical Engineering with a focus on Embedded Systems, and I was wondering what are the major differences between Embedded Systems and Software Engineering ⦠You can get more hardware jobs with computer engineering, but that's really the only difference there. Systems Engineer : Developer. Sorry, are you saying I should get TAOCP, ISCP, and Algorithms (Any book in general) to read? web design. Sorry I didn't mean to imply that you thought it required a computer, I was just stating that it didn't. It is a point that is up for ⦠Most companies only need the former most of the time, but every team should have one computer scientist on it, and they will probably earn more and get promoted at least in the technical track quicker. You're working on the underpinnings of the system (low level stuff). Boy, can your advisers can really fail you. [–]DrMeowmeow -1 points0 points1 point 6 years ago* (2 children). Software Engineer creates the tools to develop software while Software ⦠Both Software and Computer Engineering apply the principles of Computer Science, so sometimes it's hard to distinguish between them. [–]michael0x2a 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (1 child). Many other schools have computer science in the engineering school, which makes a lot of sense given that working with computers is more about engineering (problem solving) than science (theory, experimentation), though I won't say that it has nothing to do with science. Not too mention the genius-level competition you will face if you go that route. But it is extremely valuable to know how computers work on a low-level. In line for the comprehensive nature of the work, the systems engineer may work remotely for any industry, from software development to telecom engineering. This semester i'm taking lan/wan, C programming, linux shell, and javascript. This depends a lot on your area. Software Engineering: designing and building computer software SEs analyze user needs, company requirements, and budget, and they design, develop, and implement a software ⦠The Computer scientist uses the software to create an AI for the robot. Do not post questions that are an exact duplicate of something already answered in the FAQ. Oh, hell. Yeah just grab them and check them out, algorithms is the title of a book. You learn programming languages in depth, logic, algorithms, data structures, as you progress to higher level classes you start applying these topics more towards practical uses like compiler design, operating systems, and actually building programs. For my electives, I am going to take some embedded systems courses(I don't give a fuck about mobile apps or websites I've always wanted to learn lower level stuff that directly interfaces w/hardware) and some game development classes. After reading through the comments, I've learned that we're pretty much Software Engineers ourselves. Your problem may be solved, but others who have similar problems in the future could benefit from the solution/discussion in the thread. It's all on torrent sites, or just Google a title and PDF. That said, embedded work is very different than e.g. If youre in a big tech area it wont be much of an issue. It's hybrid and versatile. Very often, there is a "software engineering" track. Computer Engineering: designing and building computer hardware. Either and both it depends on where you went to school, what classes you took, and who your trying to work for. Also, when you get a particular internship or job. If you like mathematics and are interested in computers, then CS is for you. If we do come closer to the limit—or I miss C++11 too much—we may have to buy the "professional" edition or look into using GCC tools (which are fairly well supported by Nordic, the chip makers, although I've heard the ARM tools do a significantly better job w.r.t. At Google, for example, entry-level engineers start at Level 3. [–]R4p354uc3 9 points10 points11 points 6 years ago (12 children). [–]jbkrule 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children). Be prepared to sign up a day ahead to use the bench and transfer your files over via a flash-writer. Software Engineer is a team activity while Software Developer is primarily a solitary activity. Communicate to others the same way you would at your workplace. We also have one of the best CS programs in the state I live in (like top 5). Nobody told me until it was too late. A Software Engineer is well versed in the entire software development lifecycle: requirements, design, code, test, maintenance. (and I think the majority of the math is being forced down our throat as this professor is the only one I've found so focused on solving massive recurrence relations.) In practice there really isn't too much difference between the three. This was about 8 years ago, so I'm not sure if the system is still setup that way? Computer science with a focus on information assurance. At my alma mater, we had 3 different emphases for computer science (scientific, enterprise, and basic software development). See our guidelines on offering help for more details. Indeed, his motivation to change career was borne from frustration with the process of software ⦠He lives in a mansion on a golf course now. Information Systems graduate here! Automation has been a cornerstone of the manufacturing industry for decades, but itâs relatively new to the business, healthcare and finance industries. Testarossa5000 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago ( 0 children ) and frustrating from what I 've found works! 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